Minutes of the meeting of the XII Book Club held 18 Nov 1940

Reading experience

?itemComments

Minutes of the meeting of the XII Book Club held 18 Nov 1940

Reading experience
Identifer:
ukred-31789

Evidence

"Meeting held at “Hilliers”, Northcourt Avenue. 18.XI.40<br/>     Rosamund Wallis in the chair. <br/> <br/> [...] <br/> <br/> 4. Roger Moore gave us a biographical sketch of John Keats chiefly as revealed through his letters. To him Keats was memorable as much for the man he was as for what he wrote. We heard of Keats’ ideals, his religion as revealed in his letters in spite of his professed unbelief, of his family and circle of close friends and of his tragic & untimely death. In conclusion Roger Moore asked whether anyone could set his mind at rest with regard to Ruth in tears amid the alien corn. His knowledge of the Scriptures led him to suppose that Ruth was extremely happy in her exile, in which case Keats himself would have been the first to admit that an idea lacking truth could not be beautiful. This led to some discussion on Ruth and exiles in general and Howard Smith suggested that it was strange that Keats had selected Ruth when there had been so many famous exiles through whose <u>really</u> sad hearts the self-same song might have found a path. He thought Iphigenia would have been a better choice, but it was generally felt that the sadness of her exile was somewhat outweighed by the length of her name. <br/> <br/> [...] <br/> <br/> <br/>[signed] Howard R. Smith <br/> 13/12/40"

Source


Text being read

EuRED : text status
TST4
EuRED : text form
EuRED : text provenance
TPR211 Reading

Reader(s) and listener(s)

Reader
Smith, Howard
Aged 80 [Experience in 1940, born in 1860]

Details of the reading experience

Date of Reading Experience
December 13 1940
Time of Reading Experience
EuRED : experience type
EXT112
EuRED : experience frequency
EXF2
Place of reading experience
England
EuRED : emotions
EuRED : intensity
EuRED : environment
EuRED : lighting
EuRED : testimony
EuRED : reliability
Notes
This is the reading, possibly brief and cursory, implied by the Chair's act of signing these minutes. It probably followed immediately after listening to the public reading of the minutes by the Secretary.<br/> Material by kind permission of the XII Book Club. For further information and permission to quote this source, contact the Reading Experience Database (http://www.open.ac.uk/Arts/reading/contacts.php).

How to cite this record

You can copy this item for personal use, share it, and post it on a blog or website. It cannot be used commercially without permission. Please ensure the following credit accompanies it:


http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/dbworkshop/index.php/Detail/objects/96538
Accessed on 2020/11/30 13:09:26

Related place
England
Related people
Smith, Howard
Related place
England
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE TEI PUBLIC "customisation-tei/tei_readingExp.dtd" "">
<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0">
  <teiHeader>
    <fileDesc>
      <titleStmt>
        <author>
          <persName>
            <forename>Margaret</forename>
            <surname>Dilks</surname>
          </persName>
        </author>
        <title>Minutes of the meeting of the XII Book Club held 18 Nov 1940</title>
      </titleStmt>
      <sourceDesc>
        <msDesc>
          <msIdentifier>
            <country/>
            <settlement/>
            <institution/>
            <repository>private collection</repository>
            <collection/>
            <idno/>
          </msIdentifier>
          <msContents>
            <msItem>
              <title>XII Book Club Minute Book, Vol. 4 (1938-1943)</title>
              <author>Margaret Dilks</author>
            </msItem>
          </msContents>
        </msDesc>
      </sourceDesc>
      <notesStmt>
        <note>xml/ukred-31789.xml</note>
      </notesStmt>
    </fileDesc>
    <profileDesc>
      <correspDesc>
        <correspAction type="sending">
          <persName>
            <forename/>
            <surname/>
          </persName>
        </correspAction>
        <correspAction type="receiving">
          <persName>
            <forename/>
            <surname/>
          </persName>
        </correspAction>
      </correspDesc>
      <langUsage/>
    </profileDesc>
    <experienceDesc>
      <experience ref="ukred-31789">
        <respStmt resp="submitter">
          <resp>submitted by</resp>
          <persName>
            <forename>Ian</forename>
            <surname>Spackman</surname>
          </persName>
          <address>
            <address_line/>
          </address>
          <email>ian.spackman@talktalk.net</email>
        </respStmt>
        <respStmt resp="editor"/>
        <date when="1940-12-13">Dec. 13 1940</date>
        <time>in the evening</time>
        <reader>
          <persName>
            <forename>Howard</forename>
            <surname>Smith</surname>
          </persName>
          <sex>M</sex>
          <age>Adult (18-100+)</age>
          <education scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/education"/>
          <birth>1880-07-15</birth>
          <faith scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/faith" ref="FAI233">Quakers</faith>
          <readerStatus scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/reader_status"/>
        </reader>
        <listener/>
        <place>
          <placeName type="street">Frensham, Northcourt Avenue</placeName>
          <location>
            <country>England</country>
            <county>Berkshire</county>
            <settlement type="city">Reading</settlement>
            <district/>
          </location>
        </place>
        <textRead>
          <author>
            <persName>
              <forename>Margaret</forename>
              <surname>Dilks</surname>
            </persName>
          </author>
          <title>Minutes of the meeting of the XII Book Club held 18 Nov 1940</title>
          <textProvenance ref="TPR211 Reading" scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/text_provenance">group</textProvenance>
          <textStatus ref="TST4" scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/text_status">Unknown</textStatus>
          <origLanguage>
            <language/>
          </origLanguage>
          <textStatus scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/text_status"/>
        </textRead>
        <readingExp>
          <experienceType scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/experience_type" ref="EXT112">Silent</experienceType>
          <posture scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/posture"/>
          <lighting scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/lighting"/>
          <environment scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/environment"/>
          <intensity scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/intensity"/>
          <emotion scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/emotion"/>
          <testimony scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/testimony"/>
          <sourceReliability scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/source_reliability"/>
          <expFrequency scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/experience_frequency" ref="EXF2">Single event</expFrequency>
          <note>This is the reading, possibly brief and cursory, implied by the Chair's act of signing these minutes. It probably followed immediately after listening to the public reading of the minutes by the Secretary.&lt;br/&gt;
Material by kind permission of the XII Book Club. For further information and permission to quote this source, contact the Reading Experience Database (http://www.open.ac.uk/Arts/reading/contacts.php).</note>
        </readingExp>
      </experience>
    </experienceDesc>
  </teiHeader>
  <text>
    <body>
      <p>
        <ptr target="ukred-31789">"Meeting held at “Hilliers”, Northcourt Avenue. 18.XI.40&lt;br/&gt;
    Rosamund Wallis in the chair. &lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
[...] &lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
4. Roger Moore gave us a biographical sketch of John Keats chiefly as revealed 
through his letters. To him Keats was memorable as much for the man he was as 
for what he wrote. We heard of Keats’ ideals, his religion as revealed in his letters 
in spite of his professed unbelief, of his family and circle of close friends and of 
his tragic &amp; untimely death. In conclusion Roger Moore asked whether anyone 
could set his mind at rest with regard to Ruth in tears amid the alien corn. His 
knowledge of the Scriptures led him to suppose that Ruth was extremely happy in 
her exile, in which case Keats himself would have been the first to admit that an 
idea lacking truth could not be beautiful. This led to some discussion on Ruth and 
exiles in general and Howard Smith suggested that it was strange that Keats had 
selected Ruth when there had been so many famous exiles through whose 
&lt;u&gt;really&lt;/u&gt; sad hearts the self-same song might have found a path. He 
thought Iphigenia would have been a better choice, but it was generally felt that 
the sadness of her exile was somewhat outweighed by the length of her name. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
[...] &lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;[signed] Howard R. Smith &lt;br/&gt;
	13/12/40"</ptr>
      </p>
    </body>
  </text>
</TEI>
?itemComments

Minutes of the meeting of the XII Book Club held 18 Nov 1940

Reading experience
Identifer:
ukred-31789

Evidence

"Meeting held at “Hilliers”, Northcourt Avenue. 18.XI.40<br/>     Rosamund Wallis in the chair. <br/> <br/> [...] <br/> <br/> 4. Roger Moore gave us a biographical sketch of John Keats chiefly as revealed through his letters. To him Keats was memorable as much for the man he was as for what he wrote. We heard of Keats’ ideals, his religion as revealed in his letters in spite of his professed unbelief, of his family and circle of close friends and of his tragic & untimely death. In conclusion Roger Moore asked whether anyone could set his mind at rest with regard to Ruth in tears amid the alien corn. His knowledge of the Scriptures led him to suppose that Ruth was extremely happy in her exile, in which case Keats himself would have been the first to admit that an idea lacking truth could not be beautiful. This led to some discussion on Ruth and exiles in general and Howard Smith suggested that it was strange that Keats had selected Ruth when there had been so many famous exiles through whose <u>really</u> sad hearts the self-same song might have found a path. He thought Iphigenia would have been a better choice, but it was generally felt that the sadness of her exile was somewhat outweighed by the length of her name. <br/> <br/> [...] <br/> <br/> <br/>[signed] Howard R. Smith <br/> 13/12/40"

Source


Text being read

EuRED : text status
TST4
EuRED : text form
EuRED : text provenance
TPR211 Reading

Reader(s) and listener(s)

Reader
Smith, Howard
Aged 80 [Experience in 1940, born in 1860]

Details of the reading experience

Date of Reading Experience
December 13 1940
Time of Reading Experience
EuRED : experience type
EXT112
EuRED : experience frequency
EXF2
Place of reading experience
England
EuRED : emotions
EuRED : intensity
EuRED : environment
EuRED : lighting
EuRED : testimony
EuRED : reliability
Notes
This is the reading, possibly brief and cursory, implied by the Chair's act of signing these minutes. It probably followed immediately after listening to the public reading of the minutes by the Secretary.<br/> Material by kind permission of the XII Book Club. For further information and permission to quote this source, contact the Reading Experience Database (http://www.open.ac.uk/Arts/reading/contacts.php).

How to cite this record

You can copy this item for personal use, share it, and post it on a blog or website. It cannot be used commercially without permission. Please ensure the following credit accompanies it:


http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/dbworkshop/index.php/Detail/objects/96538
Accessed on 2020/11/30 13:09:26

Related place
England
Related people
Smith, Howard
Related place
England
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE TEI PUBLIC "customisation-tei/tei_readingExp.dtd" "">
<TEI xmlns="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0">
  <teiHeader>
    <fileDesc>
      <titleStmt>
        <author>
          <persName>
            <forename>Margaret</forename>
            <surname>Dilks</surname>
          </persName>
        </author>
        <title>Minutes of the meeting of the XII Book Club held 18 Nov 1940</title>
      </titleStmt>
      <sourceDesc>
        <msDesc>
          <msIdentifier>
            <country/>
            <settlement/>
            <institution/>
            <repository>private collection</repository>
            <collection/>
            <idno/>
          </msIdentifier>
          <msContents>
            <msItem>
              <title>XII Book Club Minute Book, Vol. 4 (1938-1943)</title>
              <author>Margaret Dilks</author>
            </msItem>
          </msContents>
        </msDesc>
      </sourceDesc>
      <notesStmt>
        <note>xml/ukred-31789.xml</note>
      </notesStmt>
    </fileDesc>
    <profileDesc>
      <correspDesc>
        <correspAction type="sending">
          <persName>
            <forename/>
            <surname/>
          </persName>
        </correspAction>
        <correspAction type="receiving">
          <persName>
            <forename/>
            <surname/>
          </persName>
        </correspAction>
      </correspDesc>
      <langUsage/>
    </profileDesc>
    <experienceDesc>
      <experience ref="ukred-31789">
        <respStmt resp="submitter">
          <resp>submitted by</resp>
          <persName>
            <forename>Ian</forename>
            <surname>Spackman</surname>
          </persName>
          <address>
            <address_line/>
          </address>
          <email>ian.spackman@talktalk.net</email>
        </respStmt>
        <respStmt resp="editor"/>
        <date when="1940-12-13">Dec. 13 1940</date>
        <time>in the evening</time>
        <reader>
          <persName>
            <forename>Howard</forename>
            <surname>Smith</surname>
          </persName>
          <sex>M</sex>
          <age>Adult (18-100+)</age>
          <education scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/education"/>
          <birth>1880-07-15</birth>
          <faith scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/faith" ref="FAI233">Quakers</faith>
          <readerStatus scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/reader_status"/>
        </reader>
        <listener/>
        <place>
          <placeName type="street">Frensham, Northcourt Avenue</placeName>
          <location>
            <country>England</country>
            <county>Berkshire</county>
            <settlement type="city">Reading</settlement>
            <district/>
          </location>
        </place>
        <textRead>
          <author>
            <persName>
              <forename>Margaret</forename>
              <surname>Dilks</surname>
            </persName>
          </author>
          <title>Minutes of the meeting of the XII Book Club held 18 Nov 1940</title>
          <textProvenance ref="TPR211 Reading" scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/text_provenance">group</textProvenance>
          <textStatus ref="TST4" scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/text_status">Unknown</textStatus>
          <origLanguage>
            <language/>
          </origLanguage>
          <textStatus scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/text_status"/>
        </textRead>
        <readingExp>
          <experienceType scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/experience_type" ref="EXT112">Silent</experienceType>
          <posture scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/posture"/>
          <lighting scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/lighting"/>
          <environment scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/environment"/>
          <intensity scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/intensity"/>
          <emotion scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/emotion"/>
          <testimony scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/testimony"/>
          <sourceReliability scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/source_reliability"/>
          <expFrequency scheme="http://eured.univ-lemans.fr/thesaurus/experience_frequency" ref="EXF2">Single event</expFrequency>
          <note>This is the reading, possibly brief and cursory, implied by the Chair's act of signing these minutes. It probably followed immediately after listening to the public reading of the minutes by the Secretary.&lt;br/&gt;
Material by kind permission of the XII Book Club. For further information and permission to quote this source, contact the Reading Experience Database (http://www.open.ac.uk/Arts/reading/contacts.php).</note>
        </readingExp>
      </experience>
    </experienceDesc>
  </teiHeader>
  <text>
    <body>
      <p>
        <ptr target="ukred-31789">"Meeting held at “Hilliers”, Northcourt Avenue. 18.XI.40&lt;br/&gt;
    Rosamund Wallis in the chair. &lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
[...] &lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
4. Roger Moore gave us a biographical sketch of John Keats chiefly as revealed 
through his letters. To him Keats was memorable as much for the man he was as 
for what he wrote. We heard of Keats’ ideals, his religion as revealed in his letters 
in spite of his professed unbelief, of his family and circle of close friends and of 
his tragic &amp; untimely death. In conclusion Roger Moore asked whether anyone 
could set his mind at rest with regard to Ruth in tears amid the alien corn. His 
knowledge of the Scriptures led him to suppose that Ruth was extremely happy in 
her exile, in which case Keats himself would have been the first to admit that an 
idea lacking truth could not be beautiful. This led to some discussion on Ruth and 
exiles in general and Howard Smith suggested that it was strange that Keats had 
selected Ruth when there had been so many famous exiles through whose 
&lt;u&gt;really&lt;/u&gt; sad hearts the self-same song might have found a path. He 
thought Iphigenia would have been a better choice, but it was generally felt that 
the sadness of her exile was somewhat outweighed by the length of her name. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
[...] &lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;[signed] Howard R. Smith &lt;br/&gt;
	13/12/40"</ptr>
      </p>
    </body>
  </text>
</TEI>