[Talkie & colour films]

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[Talkie & colour films]

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Aged 70 [Experience in 1930, born in 1860]

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It is uncertain whether this was a reading more or less verbatim from a well worked out MS, or an elaboration of written notes.<br/> Material by kind permission of the XII Book Club. For further information and permission to quote this source, contact the Reading Experience Database (http://www.open.ac.uk/Arts/reading/contacts.php).

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Related place
England
Related people
Elliott, Thomas C.
Related place
England
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[Talkie & colour films]

Reading experience
Identifer:
ukred-29375

Evidence

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Reader(s) and listener(s)

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Related place
England
Related people
Elliott, Thomas C.
Related place
England
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Friday 28th March 1930&lt;br/&gt;
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[...]&lt;br&gt;
6. A warm message of sympathy to be sent to our secretary, H R Smith&lt;br/&gt;
7. F E Pollard opened the discussion by speaking on The Cinema and The Theatre pointing out 
that the silent film could only represent incidents &amp; visible emotions, the Talkie was a 
mechanical reproduction, while the best dramatic art must be given there and then by living 
Personalities[.] Each may have its place but it would be a disaster if the theatre was driven 
out of existence. Geo Burrows followed dealing with the influence of films on backward Races to whom the 
worst was often shown with undesirable effects; &amp; the possibilities of using Films for 
missionary work.
H R Robson thought Films were of little use in Education; he regarded them as a species of 
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C E Stansfield whilst disclaiming any familiarity of them spoke of their possible deleterious 
influence on our language which he heard would before long be “Ammricanized” [sic] he 
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further 
the trade.
Robert Pollard expressed unbounded enthusiasm for the Talkie &amp; Colour films. The movies 
were dead &amp; orchestras being displaced by records of appropriate music attached to the films.
T C Elliot dealt with their effect on public life and morals which he feared was almost wholly 
deleterious; he produced and commented unfavourably on some of the magazines 
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